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From: cgd@erewhon.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.bugs
Subject: Re: The patchkit (was Re: Excessive Interrupt Latencies)
Date: 27 Mar 93 12:17:02
Organization: Kernel Hackers 'r' Us
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In-reply-to: raz@sleeper.apana.org.au's message of Fri, 26 Mar 1993 01:03:36 GMT

I OWN TOO MANY HATS, BUT NONE OF THEM KEEP MY HEAD WARM!

In article <C4H1M1.3L5@sleeper.apana.org.au> raz@sleeper.apana.org.au (Roland Turner) writes:
>Re: comp.os.386bsd.patches
>
>Given the circus that surrounded creation of comp.os.386bsd.*, I am 
>not optimistic about a new group (although even if I was, we are looking
>at approx 2 months), how about comp.os.386bsd.announce? Not strictly in
>its charter I know, but it IS moderated and a patch release IS a "launch"
>of general interest to the 386bsd community at large.

(wearing my group-creator's hat...)

umm, yah, a new group would take at least 2 months, even given
that all went smoothly.  and there wasn't too much weirdness when
somebody (me...  8-) finally settled down to DOING IT.

>>Obviously, this is a fair amount of work, and I can't do it all by
>>myself.  Anyone wishing to help out (or even just say `Go for it!') is
>>welcome to send me mail.
>
>Go for it! (Chris Demetriou (sp?): care to comment?)

(wearing my moderator's hat...)

GO FOR IT...  but wait 2 weeks.  the world as we know it
will have changed by then -- (at least one) interim release should
have hit the fan by then, so the "base" will have moved...

also, i *do* consider .announce a good place to post patches, or
announcements of patches.  (WELL TESTED patches, that is.  or calls-for-
testers of major patches/packages.)

i'd like to see .patches, but a need has to exist first.

as it is, i'd like to see more stuff on .announce...

>Silly question time: Why isn't cgd's com driver distributed as a patch?
>(Is it?)

(wearing my author's hat...)

because it's a complete and total piece of CRAP.
the driver that it's a hack on was a piece of crap, too.

bruce evans' driver is wonderful, apparently, and i'd like
to get my thoughts integraged into it, when i have the chance...

however, i don't currently have the chance.

>>c) If the patchkit mechanism weren't *braindead*, I wouldn't have to
>>back anything out.
>
>If you apply a bad patch - you have to back it out one day :-)

if you apply a bad patch, then you can simply "back it out" by
applying _another_ patch which does the equivalent of
removing the first.

while it's ugly, it does guarantee a monotonically-increasing set
of patch numbers...  8-)



things to look forward soon, from various fronts:
a list of lots of bugs for you folks to bang on...
some sort of interim release.  (if it's one that i do, it'll
	definitely have "weekly source patches" and probably
	monthly binary sets...)


<sigh>


chris
who's like to crawl into a big hat, and sleep...  8-)
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Chris G. Demetriou                                    cgd@cs.berkeley.edu

                 MENTALLY CONTAMINATED and proud of it!