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Xref: sserve comp.os.linux:31291 comp.os.386bsd.questions:1069 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!pipex!bnr.co.uk!uknet!cf-cm!cybaswan!iiitac From: iiitac@swan.pyr (Alan Cox) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.os.386bsd.questions Subject: Re: 386bsd, linux: which runs more out of the box? Message-ID: <1993Mar25.173656.19166@swan.pyr> Date: 25 Mar 93 17:36:56 GMT References: <hwr.732890376@snert.ka.sub.org> <SCT.93Mar23224452@belnahua.dcs.ed.ac.uk> <1oqlf5$i8b@agate.berkeley.edu> Organization: Swansea University College Lines: 41 In article <1oqlf5$i8b@agate.berkeley.edu> curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes: >In article <SCT.93Mar23224452@belnahua.dcs.ed.ac.uk> sct@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Stephen Tweedie) writes: > >Bollocks. > >I've had huge problems with the minix filesystem in a number of >recent releases, and I've seen reports of similar-looking efs >snafus. This isn't a SCSI problem; I have IDE. > >My guess, in fact, is that the bug is in fsck (and efsck, which is >based on fsck). The "standard" SLS system doesn't run fsck on boot, >so it's not surprising that there have been few such bug reports; >I think we might see a lot more if Peter got round to putting a decent >shutdown/rc package in SLS. > >I don't mean to be complaining about free software, but I've lost >a lot of valuable data from the minix fs on a lot of occasions, and >it rather disturbs me when people claim that it's bug-free. Fsck >is a necessary part of the filesystem; if you can't recover all >written data after an arbitrary crash, then your filesystem is >broken. Period. > What an attitude. Well I'm running 4 Linux systems, all with Minix FS, all being hammered very hard. Apart from a few early (0.98 and earlier) releases which could cause minor recoverable hiccups I've never had a problem with the file system. I'd strongly suggest you check out your hard disk controller and drive. These aren't machines just sitting around thinking either, one is handling 4-6 users some under X, two are being used full time for X development one NFS serving for the other, and re-serving a novell filestore off SOSS, the last is doing mixed development work, including kernel work like adding acct(), at the same time as being an amateur radio node and router. I tried 386BSD and after discovering it stayed up for under 2 hours average out of the box and that the serial ports only did 2400 I gave it up. Having said that I still want some poor fool^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hbrave volunteer to port the BSD FFS to Linux, because on a big filesystems and fast disks it visibly outperformed the Linux file system. Alan