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Xref: sserve comp.os.linux:31171 comp.os.386bsd.questions:1050 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.os.386bsd.questions Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!news.claremont.edu!news!jwinstea From: jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.) Subject: Re: 386bsd, linux: which runs more out of the box? In-Reply-To: curtis@cs.berkeley.edu's message of 25 Mar 93 19:06:32 GMT Message-ID: <JWINSTEA.93Mar25125111@fenris.claremont.edu> Sender: news@news.claremont.edu (The News System) Organization: Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR References: <SCT.93Mar23224452@belnahua.dcs.ed.ac.uk> <1oqlf5$i8b@agate.berkeley.edu> <JWINSTEA.93Mar24143557@fenris.claremont.edu> <1osvro$da@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 20:51:11 GMT Lines: 53 In article <1osvro$da@agate.berkeley.edu> curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes: Do the sort of people who like to fix bugs generally read c.o.l.? Or should I just send a bug-report straight to Linus? I think a good majority of them read c.o.l, but it never hurts to send bug reports to Linus. If you suspected the problem was SCSI related, the authors of the SCSI drivers would have been good people to contact, and if it was efs-related, it wouldn't have hurt to talk to Remy Card. It's easy to miss things that get posted in c.o.l., even if you try and read most of it, and especially if you try and use subject headers as a guide to what to read. >If you want an /etc/rc script that handles automatically doing fsck >upon bootup, let me know and I'll send you one. I have my own, but it's probably not as good as yours. Why don't you post it? I think a lot of people would find it useful. I've gotten quite a few requests for this, so I'll try and clean it up and send it to the popular ftp sites this weekend. The main thing it uses to do the filesystem checking on bootup is fsutil-1.6, which has fsck and mkfs frontends that let you just do a "fsck /dev/hdb3" and it figures out the proper "real" fsck program to use by reading /etc/fstab (or it can be told via command line option). It also supports fsck -A to check all of the filesystems in /etc/fstab. Again, it really disturbs me to see any kind of a prebuilt Unix distribution without automatic fsck; if you don't check your disk you are putting yourself in for a lot of heavy and uncomfortable shit. Not, perhaps, a problem for us gurus, but it's something that a novice could really get bit by. I agree - it would be nice if the /etc/rc was cleaned up in SLS, especially in regards to checking filesystems on bootup, and creating /etc/mtab (in particular, it should *not* do a "rdev > /etc/mtab"). >If you aren't backing up important data on a regular basis, you are >broken. Period. Shit, just back up every minute, and you won't need a filesystem at all! Don't laugh too hard, some people do have systems with hard drives that mirror each other. :) -- loveritablessencentipedependentalism+ Jim Winstead Jr. (CSci '95) andaterrificklengtherealityearguessy| Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR mpathybridgenerationiceremonymphysic| jwinstea@jarthur.Claremont.EDU alendareadvertisexpresshothoughthend+ or jwinstea@fenris.Claremont.EDU