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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!csus.edu!netcom.com!hasty From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) Subject: Re: MOTIF Message-ID: <1993Mar10.033550.19694@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <1993Mar3.174457.20969@unet.net.com> <1993Mar9.150912.15556@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> <1993Mar9.171156.4415@unet.net.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 03:35:50 GMT Lines: 60 In article <1993Mar9.171156.4415@unet.net.com> dsilvia@blunt.net.com (Dave Silvia) writes: >In article <1993Mar9.150912.15556@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> volker@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Volker A. Brandt ) writes: >>In article <1993Mar3.174457.20969@unet.net.com> dsilvia@blunt.net.com () writes: >>>In article <1993Mar3.142549.8838@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> volker@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Volker A. Brandt ) writes: >>>>[...] His port works fine, and I use his mwm every day. >>> >>>What are your licensing rates for using Motif? >> >>I haven't checked with Enrico lately, but I think he charges some $150, which >>includes media cost and international postage. >> >>> And what do you mean 'His port'? >> >>Well, just that. He took the 1.1.1 source and produced working binaries for >>386bsd 0.1 -- that's what I call a port, maybe it's not the correct word. >> > >Just trying to ascertain (discretely, if possible -- but guess not) if the mwm >etc. that is available is 'legal'. > >What I meant was, I was under the impression that you could only get licensed >by OSF for Motif runtime and/or source. Is it 'legal' to get from somone's >'port'. Anyone who has access to Motif sources can compile it under any >OS/X environment (thus 'porting' it), but that does not make it licensed by >OSF nor are they at liberty to pass it on. At least, that's the way it works >at my company. We have source and object for Motif to produce our applications, >but are not at liberty to use it for any other purpose. We resell mwm, for >instance, with all the appropriate copyrights under OSF license for the purpose >of our customers being able to use our applications. Is Enrico licensed by >OSF and allowed to resell under this license? > >I have access to Motif libraries/executables/sources at work, but I cannot >download it (legally) to my 386bsd and build/use it. > >Dave S. check with OSF. usually depending upon your licensing agreement you can sell the motif binaries, mwm and related libraries. However as I understand it you have to give OSF a certain fee per binary installation that you sell. So it is to the advantage of OSF to let you sell the binaries since they stand to financially benefit - a very powerful negotiation argument. A secondary attack is to verify the rules for cross-compilation on your platform, which your company has license for, and to be allow to sell the binaries. If you need any further advice just e-mail me. Hope this helps, Amancio -- This message brought to you by the letters X and S and the number 3 Amancio Hasty | Home: (415) 495-3046 | ftp-site depository of all my work: e-mail hasty@netcom.com | sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov:/pub/386bsd/incoming