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Xref: sserve comp.org.usenix:3278 comp.unix.bsd:11606 comp.org.sug:663 comp.os.386bsd.misc:62 Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!sun-barr!olivea!charnel!rat!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!eff!world!geer From: geer@world.std.com (Dan Geer) Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix,comp.unix.bsd,comp.org.sug,comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: How to vote on POSIX Printing Message-ID: <C3CKCp.CFw@world.std.com> Date: 4 Mar 93 04:26:48 GMT References: <C36JrI.E8K@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Lines: 39 In article <C36JrI.E8K@ra.nrl.navy.mil> atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson) writes: > A few weeks back, during USENIX in fact, there was much discussion >on the net of the POSIX intent to standardise the not widely used >printing mechanisms defined by the Palladium system as the standard >UNIX printing commands. > > Palladium was at one time widely installed at MIT, but large >portions of MIT removed it because Palladium was unusable. Palladium >is significantly different from the existing practice of System V's >"lp" and friends and is also different from the existing practice of >BSD's "lpr" and friends. At the moment, the Palladium momentum >appears to be coming from the Closed Software Foundation (OSF) as a >way to make existing BSD and System V systems "non-standard" and to >give the OSF companies a marketing advantage versus vendors who >already have implemented either System V or BSD printing. This thumbnail history is seriously revisionist, i.e., wrong both factually and inferentially. My authority is simple; I was five years the head of development for Project Athena, and I was one of the half dozen outside consultants in the OSF's Distributed Management Environment selection process. If you care to vote on this matter, I would suggest you take further care than depending on this poster's guidance. I, for one, strongly recommend a favorable vote, though this entire discussion is misplaced in comp.org.usenix. Daniel E. Geer, Jr., Sc.D. Geer Zolot Associates One Main Street Cambridge, Massachusetts 02142 Email: geer@gza.com Telephone: +1 617 374 3700 FAX: +1 617 374 3715