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From: rich@Rice.edu (Richard Murphey)
Subject: Re: Supported video adapters
In-Reply-To: jeffc@netcom.com's message of Sat, 20 Feb 1993 04:13:38 GMT
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In article <1993Feb20.041338.3173@netcom.com> jeffc@netcom.com (Jeff Cohen) writes:
   Which video adapters are supported by X-windows for 386BSD?  In
   particular, are any S3-based cards supported?


Here's a somewhat out of date cost/performance analysis of graphics
adapters.  The bechmarks for the S3 based cards a going up as software
and hardware development proceed, but the conclusions are the same.
Please note that the S3 cards are *not* supported by XFree86 yet.
Rich


  Which graphics card supported by XFree86 or XS3 should I get for
  the highest performance per dollar value?
  
  For under $100, the Tseng ET4000 is reasonable.  For $200 or so an
  Actix Graphics Engine gives six times the performance of the ET4000.
  XFree86 supports et4000, et3000, pvga1, gvga, ati and tvga8900
  chipsets while XS3 supports only the S3 chipset.  The rankings by
  xstones are:
  
  Model                 Chip            Xstones Price   Ratio
  GraphicEngine VLBus   S3 805          88K     $220    2.5 $/k
  GraphicEngine 32b     S3 801          64.1K   $210    3.3 $/k
  F1280 (most recent)   S3 924          48.6k   $210    4.3 $/k
  GraphicEngine 70      S3 911          37.4K   ?       ?  $/k
  F1280 (first model)   S3 911          24.6k   $170    6.9 $/k
  ATI VGA Wondercard XL ATI             ?       $130    ? $/k
  ET4000 32bit VLBus    ET4000          19.0k   $159    8.4 $/k
  ProDesigner II        ET4000          11.6k   $130    11.2 $/k
  Tseng                 ET4000          11.6k   $88     7.6 $/k
  Trident 8900C         TVGA8900        5.1k    $58     11.4 $/k
    
  911, 924 and 928 chips use VRAM while the 801 and 805 use DRAM.
  VRAM performance degrates less at high dot clock refresh rate and
  screen sizes.  Although the 80x performance is higher it may not
  necessarily scale as well as the 9xx to large displays.
  
  The following performance ratings are relative to a value of 10000
  for a monochrome SUN 3/50 running X11R3 communicating via unix
  sockets.  A machine with double the performance will therefore get
  20000 and a machine with half the performance will get 5000.  These
  benchmarks were taken on various PC hardware, so the results cannot
  be quantitatively consistent.  We should not rely on them
  quantitatively, but Until we have all the cards available in one
  place this is the best we can do.
  
  machine              p  comm   line  fill   blt   text    arc   cmplx xstone
  Sparc2 gx            8 local  244821 44250 50912 435875 7763207  85816  97803
  Gr.Eng.32 VLBus      8 local  141256 66431 40214 169812 3637764 132418  88451
  Gr.Eng.32b 13MHz bus 8 local  107908 42632 31590 117562 2975512  92352  64061
  Gr.Eng.32b 6MHz bus  8 local  102774 45363 27382 113125 2485082  97712  60897
  F1280 924  486/33    8 local  111640 30450 21935 103812 2871708  62222  48559
  Gr.Eng.70 13MHz bus  8 local  103781 21777 16997  83875 2580416  46797  37496
  X11R5 S3 X386        8 local  107087 22917 15007  56375 2522818  44117  34032
  Sparc1+ cg3          8 local  121149 13219 10735 134750 2112958  22418  25901
  F1280 911            8 local   56746 16390 10463  53625 1425872  34444  24625
  ET4000 486/50 VLBus  8 local  123308 13529  5951 138187 1941774  18954  19008
  ET4000 486/33        8 socket  88671  9562  3372  97281 1377355  11307  11621
  Sun3/50 (R3)         1 socket  10000 10000 10000  10000   10000  10000  10000
  Trident 8900C        8 socket  55957  2503  1990  45937  705011   4248   5123
  
  line = solid-line, dashed-line, wide-line and rectangle performance.
  fill = solid-, tile- and stipple-rectangle-fill performance.
  blt = invrects, screencopy, scroll, and bitmapcopy performance.
  arc = arc- and filledarc performance.
  p = color/greyscale planes. '1' means monochrome.
  
  Actix GraphicEngine 23b $210 Palo Alto Micro 415-493-8209
  Actix GraphicsEngine32+ 2MB $243 CSI 800-733-9798
  Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 1Mb+Sierra $210 OS Computer 800-938-6722
  ATI VGA Wondercard XL 1Mb $129 Harmony Computer 800-441-1144
  Orchid ProDesigner IIs 1Mb+Sierra $130 Dee One Systems 800-831-8808
  Tseng ET4000 1Mb $88 OS Computer 800-938-6722
  TVGA8900 Trident 8900C 1MB $58 Dee One Systems 800-831-8808
  ET4000 32bit VLBus 1Mb  $159 PC Importers 800-886-5155
  Actix GraphicEngine $? NTD 800-998-1699 
  Actix GraphicEngine $? Actix Systems 800-927-5557
  Actix GraphicEngine $? DPS 800-669-8194
  
  XFree86 does not support any Diamond boards beyond the old
  Speedstar+ models. We cannot support their newer boards in the
  forseeable future because the interface to their proprietary clock
  synthesizers is a 'trade secret' protected by non-disclosure
  licensing restrictions.  They could threaten legal action even on an
  independently developed interface and this has scared many
  contributors away.  Our sincere advice is to avoid Diamond.