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Received: by minnie.vk1xwt.ampr.org with NNTP id AA1753 ; Tue, 23 Feb 93 14:56:26 EST Xref: sserve comp.unix.bsd:11451 comp.os.386bsd.misc:12 Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.misc Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!hp4at!mcsun!ieunet!dec4ie.ieunet.ie!jkh From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard) Subject: Re: NeoSoft and the Patchkit (was Re: Patchkit Patches 00077 through 00082 Now Available) In-Reply-To: karl@NeoSoft.com's message of Thu, 18 Feb 1993 05: 51:45 GMT Message-ID: <JKH.93Feb20153906@whisker.lotus.ie> Sender: usenet@ieunet.ie (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: whisker.lotus.ie Organization: Lotus Development Ireland References: <cproto.729757710@marsh> <1993Feb15.170522.397@coe.montana.edu> <C2M1oo.3ty@sugar.neosoft.com> <C2MqyA.K9M@sugar.neosoft.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1993 15:39:06 GMT Lines: 48 We will continue to study the issues, however, and I will not rule out our return at a future date when we have something righteous and superior to offer -- perhaps including an entirely new patchkit system -- or something simpler, like picking up unofficially in the face of a de facto abdication by the current crew. I have not yet spoken with Karl, but I've sent him mail asking for his phone number so that I can call him (from Ireland) and try and straighten out this whole mess. Quite frankly, we don't need this kind of politiking, especially at this stage of 386bsd's development. Now I really didn't have much to do with this current (and unfortunate) situation of misunderstanding and bruised feelings since I simply came along and answered a request for a new patchkit coordinator in good-faith. Karl's involvement was unknown to me and the entire situation came as something as a surprise. I also don't believe that any of this was Nate's intention and, while mistakes were made, the whole situation has gotten a lot more bitter than it ever needed to be. So, while I didn't start this unfortunate situation, I would like to be the one to put an end to it and I'd like to take this opportunity to publically extend an olive branch to the NeoSoft crew in hope that we can settle our differences and get back to the job of making the whole patchkit mechanism better (for everyone). I would, in particular, like to request that NeoSoft *please* (and I mean that) not go off on their own to re-write the patchkit mechanism, since I'm working on exactly the same thing and just had a long strategy discussion with Bill Jolitz where we agreed on a mutually acceptable approach. It would be disasterous if we not only diverged in distributing patches, but also in the method for their distribution. In summary, I think everyone (Nate, Karl, and many others) have done a lot of hard work on 386bsd, the facts of which are undisputed, and the last thing we need is to be fighting eachother - there is a lot more work to be done and this just distracts from the common purpose (that both Nate & Karl share, whether they currently get along or not). Peace? Jordan -- Jordan Hubbard Lotus Development Ireland jkh@whisker.lotus.ie 386bsd Patchkit Coordinator All-around nice dude. I do not speak for Lotus as that's not in my job description.