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From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Subject: Re: NeoSoft and the Patchkit (was Re: Patchkit Patches 00077 through 00082 Now Available)
In-Reply-To: karl@NeoSoft.com's message of Thu, 18 Feb 1993 05: 51:45 GMT
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	We will continue to study the issues, however, and I will not rule out our
	return at a future date when we have something righteous and superior to
	offer -- perhaps including an entirely new patchkit system -- or something 
	simpler, like picking up unofficially in the face of a de facto abdication 
	by the current crew. 

I have not yet spoken with Karl, but I've sent him mail asking for his
phone number so that I can call him (from Ireland) and try and straighten
out this whole mess.

Quite frankly, we don't need this kind of politiking, especially at
this stage of 386bsd's development.  Now I really didn't have much to
do with this current (and unfortunate) situation of misunderstanding
and bruised feelings since I simply came along and answered a request
for a new patchkit coordinator in good-faith.  Karl's involvement was
unknown to me and the entire situation came as something as a
surprise.  I also don't believe that any of this was Nate's intention
and, while mistakes were made, the whole situation has gotten a lot
more bitter than it ever needed to be.

So, while I didn't start this unfortunate situation, I would like to
be the one to put an end to it and I'd like to take this opportunity
to publically extend an olive branch to the NeoSoft crew in hope that
we can settle our differences and get back to the job of making the
whole patchkit mechanism better (for everyone).

I would, in particular, like to request that NeoSoft *please* (and I
mean that) not go off on their own to re-write the patchkit mechanism,
since I'm working on exactly the same thing and just had a long
strategy discussion with Bill Jolitz where we agreed on a mutually
acceptable approach.  It would be disasterous if we not only diverged
in distributing patches, but also in the method for their
distribution.

In summary, I think everyone (Nate, Karl, and many others) have done a
lot of hard work on 386bsd, the facts of which are undisputed, and the
last thing we need is to be fighting eachother - there is a lot more
work to be done and this just distracts from the common purpose (that
both Nate & Karl share, whether they currently get along or not).

Peace?

					Jordan

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Jordan Hubbard          Lotus Development Ireland       jkh@whisker.lotus.ie
386bsd Patchkit Coordinator                             All-around nice dude.
I do not speak for Lotus as that's not in my job description.