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From: rlk@underprize.think.com (Robert Krawitz)
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Subject: Re: George William Herbert's Challenge - Part 3 (Let the code speak)
Date: 3 Feb 93 19:45:20
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In-reply-to: jbass@igor.tamri.com's message of Wed, 3 Feb 93 09:53:04 GMT

In article <1993Feb3.095304.3744@igor.tamri.com> jbass@igor.tamri.com (John Bass) writes:

   The point is two fold:

	   1) AT&T has a serious interest in the UNIX product and has brought
	   to bear funding which forms an investment that should be allowed
	   to yeild dividends for it's stockholders (who are largely common
	   folk -- or the pension funds of common folk).

	   2) UCB's entire development effort represents about 1% of the AT&T
	   development effort. The PRODUCT IS AT&T's ... UCB's efforts are
	   a minor project in the grand scheme of things.

>From which I draw two conclusions:

1)  You believe that any attempt by UCB, or anyone smaller than ATT, to
develop an OS anything like Unix is fundamentally illegitimate.

2)  You believe that ATT has rights to Unix that go substantially beyond
any copyright rights that I'm aware of, namely that they have a
copyright on the basic structure of Unix, not merely the source code
that they wrote.

   Actually what I have done so far, is declare "the emperor has no clothes" to
   the loyal UCB followers, and got flamed at. I have stated that IF you take
   the time you will find a serious connection between Bach and 386BSD, and
   in addition, have stated my first hand observations about such. This is
   hardly a refusal to provide evidence.

So what if you do find a connection between Bach and 386BSD?  I wasn't
aware that copyright extended to cover the concepts presented in the
book.
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