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From: tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Vesa Local Bus and Companies (please read)
Message-ID: <1993Jan27.191330.4938@dvorak.amd.com>
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:13:30 GMT
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In article <1993Jan27.050642.15880@wam.umd.edu> tictac@wam.umd.edu (Shake it to the Left) writes:
>Then WHY does [deleted] sell 486/DX50's claming to have
>3 VLB slots in them? 

Although they may have a true 50MHz CPU, they might operate the rest
of the system at 25MHz.  You will have to ask them what the clock rate
is on the vl-bus.

The rules are that only certified VL-Bus systems have a special VESA
VL-Bus compliance label.  The compliance testing requirements are just
being finalized and will soon be off to the mags and the various
compliance labs.  If a company is not on the committee, then they will
most likely have to be certified by an independent lab.  Those on the
committee *might* be permitted to self-certify.

Only 33MHz and less systems can have 3 physical slots.  Right off the
bat these are in violation UNLESS they are buffered (probably not).

I was amazed that some companies are offering so-called VL-Bus
compatible machines with well over 200pF of UNLOADED capacitance on
the Bus.  These companies generally just take a chip vendor's demo
platform and stamp out massive units.  Unfortunately, these demo
platforms typically do not conform to any intelligent design
parameters.  One that I looked at recently (the over 200pF one) had
the two banks of SRAM, the 8 SIMM modules, and the 3 local bus slots
all on the motherboard.  The SRAM and DRAM alone put the recommeded
bus capacitance at the limit.  Naturally, adding buffers to the DRAM
would have required an extra waitstate or faster DRAM.  But, if I had
such a system that would be a whole lots better than having parity
errors (assuming you have parity).

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